HELP! Whisker biscuit damaging fletching, erratic flight(modified)

[cle elum bowhunter]

Thought I had this figured out, sorry if this has been asked before.  My biscuit seems to be somehow leaving a rub mark on my bottom left fletch which after about a dozen shots starts to curl the fletch.  Cock vain up, by all appearances I should be clearing the black bristles with the lower fletches, and plenty of clearance on all other parts of riser and other equipment.  Shoot one set and all arrows fly good and tight group and then the next, a few will boat-tail and group speads out.  Anyone have a problem with the biscuit rubbing and causing the fletches to curl?  Shooting 2" blazers with right helical.  Been bow hunting since 1984 and never had a problem getting any of my other bows to tune well. Good form, use a sling for open handed shot(no bow torque) and use a release.   Bow is new, set up at AS&J archery, been back and had everything looked over.  Right now my confidence with the new bow is shot to hell and I already sold the old bow or I would think about using it this year.  Peaches Bull tag in hand and I want know where my arrows are going.  Help please.

[nwhunter]

My advise is get rid of the whisker biscuit and get a drop away rest which is the only way to completely eliminate fletching contact. You have a great tag but you have to be able to have confidence in  your bow setup and be able to make the shot.  I would get to a bowshop and change the rest and get dialed in quick, three weeks and counting. nwhunter

[huntnphool]

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,19775.0.html

[coldsteel3d]

Ditch the whisker bisquit, they are for women and children.   Go with a trophy taker full containment if you are worried about the arrow falling of your shelf.

[BLKBEARKLR]

My advise is get rid of the whisker biscuit and get a drop away rest which is the only way to completely eliminate fletching contact. You have a great tag but you have to be able to have confidence in  your bow setup and be able to make the shot.  I would get to a bowshop and change the rest and get dialed in quick, three weeks and counting. nwhunter

 

[Turkeyman]

Ditch the whisker bisquit, they are for women and children.   Go with a trophy taker full containment if you are worried about the arrow falling of your shelf.

 

[Sneaky]

 A buddy of mine bought some arrows with 2" blazer vanes  that are made of material that isn't soft enough to pass through the biscuit unfettered. his groups were all over the place til he picked up some bemans with 4" fletchings.

[bowhunterforever]

Whisker biscuit sucks! Get a drop away rest.

[rooselk]

Go to just about any archery site and you'll find a very vocal minority who will tell you to go get rid of the Biscuit and buy a drop away rest. My answer to that is always the same: I'll get rid of the Whisker Biscuit when you throw the training wheels away and get a bow where the arrow sits on the shelf.

Your Whisker Biscuit is fine, and it really excells for hunting. It probably just needs some adjustment. You might try Blazer vanes which, since they are stiffer, are a perfect match for the Whisker Biscuit. A little discoloration on the vanes doesn't necessarily mean that something is wrong. I'd say that you should take your bow to your local pro shop and let them about your concerns. Chances are that they'll be able to get the problem, if any, straightened out very quickly.

[PolarBear]

Ditch the whisker bisquit, they are for women and children.   Go with a trophy taker full containment if you are worried about the arrow falling of your shelf.

 

I bought 2 whisker biscuits at Wally world in Yelm for $5 (normally $39).  They were blowing them out after season.  I put one on my 9 year old daughter's bow and sold the other for $25.  It works fine for her but I would never use one if you actually practice a lot with arrows that you are going to hunt with.  It tweaks the fletchings on her little arrows and they are hard as a rock.

[BULLBLASTER]

Go to just about any archery site and you'll find a very vocal minority who will tell you to go get rid of the Biscuit and buy a drop away rest. My answer to that is always the same: I'll get rid of the Whisker Biscuit when you throw the training wheels away and get a bow where the arrow sits on the shelf.

Your Whisker Biscuit is fine, and it really excells for hunting. It probably just needs some adjustment. You might try Blazer vanes which, since they are stiffer, are a perfect match for the Whisker Biscuit. A little discoloration on the vanes doesn't necessarily mean that something is wrong. I'd say that you should take your bow to your local pro shop and let them about your concerns. Chances are that they'll be able to get the problem, if any, straightened out very quickly.

what does a whisker biscuit have to do with switching to a longbow or recurve?
get a good fall away rest, have it installed correctly and shoot a big ol bull!!!

[Todd_ID]

My  is that there is nothing wrong with using a biscuit rest for hunting.  I choose to use a drop away, but I wouldn't push that on someone who has a biscuit.  Get the fletch that is curling straightened back out by dipping it in near-boiling water or using a blow dryer.  Then try rotating the nock in a manner that will turn the fletch on each arrow that is hitting maybe 1/32 of a turn farther away from the stiff bristles on the bottom (i.e., the cock vane will now be canted off to the side instead of dead vertical).  Shoot a dozen times and see if it's still curling.  Helical fletched Blazers will spin just enough to make contact from the release of the string to the rest, and that could be your problem.  If you're shooting good clean arrows that don't wobble in flight and can hit what you want with a broadhead on your first few shots, then I'd say you're ready to hunt.  If your first arrow is as erratic as your 30th, then you've got a tuning issue that moving the rest in tiny increments should fix.  Blazers and biscuits are not exactly the best combination, but it can work once you've got it tuned well.

[SpokaneSlayer]

I don't see anything wrong with using a WB.  I have one and use 2" Blazers.  The only fletching damage that has happened was when I ripped the trailing edge of one of the vanes because I hit the arrow with another.  Plus, I now have to get some more nocks from breaking them.  If it doesn't work well with your set up, then by all means, swap it out for a fall away.  Still doesn't make the WB a bad product though. 

[rooselk]

what does a whisker biscuit have to do with switching to a longbow or recurve?
get a good fall away rest, have it installed correctly and shoot a big ol bull!!!

Not a thing...just as telling someone to switch to a drop away isn't relevant when they ask a specific question about their Whisker Biscuit. If a drop away rest works for you, that's all fine and good. But for others, and especially for those who's hunting style is spot & stalk or still-hunting, the Whisker Biscuit is also fine and good.

[Special T]

tod_ID said it. I had a WB and i had all kinds of problems. I had 4in helicals and it messed my groups up. use smaller 2in sturdy straight fletches and that will help a ton... I switched to a drop away and my groups got smaller... If i was you i'd refletch 6 of yer arrows and see how they shoot. Low buck and won't monkey up yer gear right before the season